The Trail Runner Podcast

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Mike Foote on mental health and breaking world records.

Episode 10 - The Waste Land

BY Zoë Rom

Breaking a world record caused Mike Foote to realize he needed help.

And, T. S. Eliot re-invents modern literature while depressed.



Episode 9 - Kintsugi

BY Zoë Rom

A divorce led Ben Gibbard to reexamine his creative approach to songwriting and trail running.

Plus, a brief history of Japanese ceramic repair.

Episode 8- How Not To Make A Lightbulb

BY Zoë Rom

Fresh out of the Air Force Academy, a wrong turn forced Jim Walmsley to reconsider the trajectory of his life.

A few years later, another fateful turn would launch his running career.

Plus, the many ways to not make a lightbulb.

Episode 7 - Spirit Lines

BY Zoë Rom

Growing up on a Navajo reservation was hard, but Verna Volker tapped into the resilience that she associates with being an indigenous woman. When she didn’t see herself reflected in running media, she set out to create her own community centered around native women and their stories.

DNF Podcast · Episode 7 – Spirit Lines

Episode 6 - Song of Myself

BY Zoë Rom

Amelia Boone struggled with an eating disorder since high school, well into her hears as a champion obstacle course racer. After she was diagnosed with four stress fractures in three years, she decided to get help.

In order to truly heal, Amelia had to overcome her biggest obstacle yet: fear of feelings.

And, Walt Whitman was his own hype man.


DNF Podcast · Episode 6 – Song of Myself

Alison Désir is a runner, mother, community builder and activist.

Episode 5 - Powdered Feet

BY Zoë Rom

Alison Désir is a runner, mother, community builder and activist.

After marathon training gave her a new outlook on life, Alison decided to use her education and experiences to help others. Through her own mental health struggles, Alison has built communities based on inclusion and visibility where Black runners are empowered to take control of the mental health.

For additional mental health resources, check out Bigger Than The Trail, Heal Haus, and On the Mend.

DNF Podcast · Episode 5 – Powdered Feet

Episode 4 - Slouching Towards Leadville

BY Zoë Rom

Katie Arnold used running as a way to work through grief and anxiety in the wake of her father’s death. But she never expected to win one of the country’s biggest 100-mile races.

Plus, Joan Didion quotes in context.

You can read more of Katie Arnold’s story in her memoir, Running Home.

DNF Podcast · Slouching Towards Leadville

We're in this together.

Special Bonus Episode - DNS

BY Zoë Rom

A pep-talk of listener-submitted stories for a tough time.

Brendan Leonard's Path To Radness

Episode 3 — Post Script

BY Zoë Rom

At age 23, Brendan Leonard was a mess. After years of drinking past last call, fist-fights, wrecked cars, multiple arrests and two DUI’s and a stint in jail, Brendan got sober.

His story is about the optimism and courage it takes to quit drinking, and how wonderful it is to live in the after.



Finding worth in and out of work.

Episode 2 — Getting To Maybe

BY Zoë Rom

David Roche had the job he’d always dreamed of, working as an environmental lawyer and policy advisor. There was just one problem. David was deeply unhappy.

This week’s episode of DNF grapples with feeling unfulfilled at work, and knowing when to leave your dream job.

And, William Faulkner vs. the U.S. Postal Service.